About the Heritage Foundation being a hate group? Like the KKK, Proud Boys, Moms for Liberty, and so many others, the Heritage Foundation's christofascist beliefs based on hatred of one group (white Christians) against another group (everyone else) should get them labeled as a hate group and their ideology eliminated from the public discourse.
IMO. I think they will try to slide under the radar more and hide their new Project. I can see them running pawns and then switching from Democrats to Republicans. I don’t see the radical Christian Nationalists as loosening or changing their views. I’m sure that they think we are all damned to hell.
One thing that needs to be dealt with is SCOTUS. My hope would be after the election to bring charges against Thomas and Alito just like NY Mayor Eric Adams was charged. That is why it is so important to vote a straight blue ticket. Also when you vote make sure the non-partisan judges aren’t fascists. We need a majority in the House and Senate to get things done.
We still have work to do now to win this election. And then we start again…
Alito and Thomas definitely need to be charged with crimes similar to Adams. We need term limits for the federal judiciary and a process to remove corrupt judges like Aileen Cannon.
My theory is it won't matter how Project 2029 is presented.
If Project 2025 was cyanide to the public, presenting 2029 as nicotine will not erase our memory. P2025 should remain poison for at least a generation.
At least the ACLU, Democracy Forward, Americans United for Separation of Church and State will be on top of it and know what to expect, given how Project 2025 discloses conservative's most extreme ideas. Project 2025 could not get worse. I anticipate that other pro-democracy organizations, particularly those whose mission is focused solely on reproductive rights, LGBTQ+ equality, racial justice, and separation of church and state, will have similar awareness.
I’m questioning if we’ll even have the national cohesion to get to a Project 2029. I was watching a report on one of the more direct breakdowns in Rule of Law in Cleveland as seen at https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/this-is-a-priority-exclusive-1-on-1-with-clevelands-police-chief-about-dangerous-car-meets-and-takeovers . Even when Cleveland Division of Police manage to respond to one of these “street takeover” incidents the suspects merely flee and the police are stymied. As that mindset of “laws are just meaningless words written on unread pages” begins to grow, people will begin to just ignore government. That’s the brewing danger that needs to be squashed while we still have big dangers now to squash.
This is off the topic of Project 2029, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see red states like TX secede. Overcoming a lawless movement like you describe takes sustained, assertive messaging from leadership on all sides: to come together; to respect the rule of law; etc. I don’t see current Republicans doing that. (I don’t include Republicans who have endorsed Harris in that statement, but they currently have no sway over the lawless base.)
What you describe in Cleveland is the domestic terror I mentioned. It is effective because it can happen any time, anywhere.
When do you think Texas and or other red states would try to secede? I agree America is too big, corrupt, and unhappy. The author is a conservative scholar. I would not be surprised if Project 2025 were to become enacted and or a national abortion ban through Comstock, fetal personhood, or congressional action; Americans would beg blue states to succeed, which I think would be disastrous with the debt, but better socially and begin to heal tensions. I think the South should be its own country - seriously. It would comprise Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, North Carolina, and Virginia. In return, the new and old countries would formally agree, in writing, to allow Southern state residents to move and with financial assistance if they are poor or middle class.
I could definitely see them utilizing all of the theories you presented, though I'll admit I think they'll lean most heavily on the first two theories you proposed, and the corrupted Judicial Branch.
Andra, I forget the exact quote progressive podcaster Thom Hartmann said in a few of his videos, but besides the GOP wanting a Christian nation, what they also truly want, he believes, is something along the lines of "want[ing] the South[east] to rise again. They want the confederacy to rise again."
Hi Andra, I love this article! Are you saying for the first point that Project 2029's secret manual would be Project 2025's public manual? If so, would Project 2029's secret manual add any additional alarming recommendations, or would it be the same as now? I think the Democratic Party will already be prepared for 2029, given how Project 2025 lays all the worst-case scenarios, and Democrats have begun to become more aggressive. I do not think Democrats fight as dirty as Republicans, and I think that needs to change. Do you think Democrats fight dirty?
In addition, what do you mean by the following:
"Through court rulings, they create a federal Department of Life and allow the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to become a nationwide transgender healthcare and pregnancy outcome tracker. They even allow red states to sue blue states for violating their edicts and could order the withholding of federal funding to blue states"?
Can we skip to the part where the Heritage Foundation is tagged (and bagged) as a hate group?
I’d love to see all of the P2025 contributors labeled as hate groups. Several currently are, mostly on the immigration front.
I do not understand this comment.
The Southern Poverty Law Center has a list of hate groups. https://www.splcenter.org/
Wow. That is some shocking information there. Blows my mind that so many people participate in hate clubs.
About the Heritage Foundation being a hate group? Like the KKK, Proud Boys, Moms for Liberty, and so many others, the Heritage Foundation's christofascist beliefs based on hatred of one group (white Christians) against another group (everyone else) should get them labeled as a hate group and their ideology eliminated from the public discourse.
More clear?
IMO. I think they will try to slide under the radar more and hide their new Project. I can see them running pawns and then switching from Democrats to Republicans. I don’t see the radical Christian Nationalists as loosening or changing their views. I’m sure that they think we are all damned to hell.
One thing that needs to be dealt with is SCOTUS. My hope would be after the election to bring charges against Thomas and Alito just like NY Mayor Eric Adams was charged. That is why it is so important to vote a straight blue ticket. Also when you vote make sure the non-partisan judges aren’t fascists. We need a majority in the House and Senate to get things done.
We still have work to do now to win this election. And then we start again…
Alito and Thomas definitely need to be charged with crimes similar to Adams. We need term limits for the federal judiciary and a process to remove corrupt judges like Aileen Cannon.
My theory is it won't matter how Project 2029 is presented.
If Project 2025 was cyanide to the public, presenting 2029 as nicotine will not erase our memory. P2025 should remain poison for at least a generation.
I hope you’re right, David. So many Americans still know little about P2025.
At least the ACLU, Democracy Forward, Americans United for Separation of Church and State will be on top of it and know what to expect, given how Project 2025 discloses conservative's most extreme ideas. Project 2025 could not get worse. I anticipate that other pro-democracy organizations, particularly those whose mission is focused solely on reproductive rights, LGBTQ+ equality, racial justice, and separation of church and state, will have similar awareness.
I’m questioning if we’ll even have the national cohesion to get to a Project 2029. I was watching a report on one of the more direct breakdowns in Rule of Law in Cleveland as seen at https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/this-is-a-priority-exclusive-1-on-1-with-clevelands-police-chief-about-dangerous-car-meets-and-takeovers . Even when Cleveland Division of Police manage to respond to one of these “street takeover” incidents the suspects merely flee and the police are stymied. As that mindset of “laws are just meaningless words written on unread pages” begins to grow, people will begin to just ignore government. That’s the brewing danger that needs to be squashed while we still have big dangers now to squash.
This is off the topic of Project 2029, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see red states like TX secede. Overcoming a lawless movement like you describe takes sustained, assertive messaging from leadership on all sides: to come together; to respect the rule of law; etc. I don’t see current Republicans doing that. (I don’t include Republicans who have endorsed Harris in that statement, but they currently have no sway over the lawless base.)
What you describe in Cleveland is the domestic terror I mentioned. It is effective because it can happen any time, anywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NToFlE3kYe4
https://www.amazon.com/American-Secession-Looming-National-Breakup-ebook/dp/B07N94RL11.
When do you think Texas and or other red states would try to secede? I agree America is too big, corrupt, and unhappy. The author is a conservative scholar. I would not be surprised if Project 2025 were to become enacted and or a national abortion ban through Comstock, fetal personhood, or congressional action; Americans would beg blue states to succeed, which I think would be disastrous with the debt, but better socially and begin to heal tensions. I think the South should be its own country - seriously. It would comprise Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, North Carolina, and Virginia. In return, the new and old countries would formally agree, in writing, to allow Southern state residents to move and with financial assistance if they are poor or middle class.
Andra, I sent you two chat messages tonight along with an article.
I could definitely see them utilizing all of the theories you presented, though I'll admit I think they'll lean most heavily on the first two theories you proposed, and the corrupted Judicial Branch.
Andra, I forget the exact quote progressive podcaster Thom Hartmann said in a few of his videos, but besides the GOP wanting a Christian nation, what they also truly want, he believes, is something along the lines of "want[ing] the South[east] to rise again. They want the confederacy to rise again."
Hi Andra, I love this article! Are you saying for the first point that Project 2029's secret manual would be Project 2025's public manual? If so, would Project 2029's secret manual add any additional alarming recommendations, or would it be the same as now? I think the Democratic Party will already be prepared for 2029, given how Project 2025 lays all the worst-case scenarios, and Democrats have begun to become more aggressive. I do not think Democrats fight as dirty as Republicans, and I think that needs to change. Do you think Democrats fight dirty?
In addition, what do you mean by the following:
"Through court rulings, they create a federal Department of Life and allow the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to become a nationwide transgender healthcare and pregnancy outcome tracker. They even allow red states to sue blue states for violating their edicts and could order the withholding of federal funding to blue states"?